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Posted by Marge Bouvier Simpson - Yesterday, 01:55 PM
(24-May-2024, 07:51 PM)Guest Wrote:
(08-Oct-2021, 02:19 AM)Tom of Helatrobus Wrote: I'm working on a profile for ROGD Boys. This is what I have so far. Let me know how your ROGD Boy conforms or differs from the profile. Mine conforms except for #21 as far as I know. This is just a profile, not a diagnostic criteria. I'm a layman, not a mental health professional.
ROGD Male Profile. I posted this to a facebook group earlier and many members said this was an exact fit or very close. Some members said this profile matched their with their girls on most points.


1. Age of onset is during teen years.
2. Did not display gender non conforming behavior prior to “coming out” as trans.
3. Little or no interest in girl things after coming out as trans with the exception of wanting to dress, be addressed as a girl and physically transitioning to female.
4. Grows out hair.
5. Attempts to enlist parents as allies or manipulate parents to the end of facilitating transition.
6. Pre-occupation with hormone replacement therapy (HRT).
7. Parents had no prior hint the teen was trans or homosexual.
8. Smart. Academically talented.
9. Good at mathematics.
10. Little or no interest in competitive sports.
11. Socially awkward, soft spoken.
12. Sexually inexperienced/ inmature for their age.
13. Displays no or little interest in sex aside from stating a sexual orientation.
14. Self identifies as homosexual or bisexual.
15. Pychological comorbidities: anxieties, depression, autism spectrum, ADHD, OCD, for which therapy has been sought.
16. Recent crisis challenging sense of identity: recent falling out with friends, breakup, failure at school, etc.
17. Very active online/ on the internet via forums and gaming.
18. Has at least one trans friend.
19. Spends a lot of time isolated in room.
20. Interest in anime (Japanese cartoons).
21. Interest in cartoon porn and/or hypno-sissy porn.
22. Messy, difficulty keeping personal space/ room organized.
23. Resistant to growing up: won’t get driver’s license, holds on to age inappropriate items from childhood.
24. Reticent to discuss trans identity despite placing great emphasis and importance on it.
25. Far left politics: “Woke”, into social justice, anti capitalism also concepts like inter-sectionality, and “privilege”.
26. Parents are liberal.
one question, how do you know that those are causation and not correlation? also some of those are just confusing, like what does being good at math have to do with it?

Hello, guest.

I can't speak for the person who created this profile, but I believe these are mainly observations. We are all here trying to figure out why so many of the same type of person (in this specific thread, mainly boys and young men with many of the traits above) are taking on a transgender identity when in past generations they would not have. Of course, not every boy or young man is going to tick all the boxes, but based on what many of us are observing, it is in uncanny how many of these boys/young men do fit a good number of these traits.

There are very few real answers as to why this trend is growing and how so many kids and young adults are falling into this belief, and in order to find answers, someone qualified and impartial would need to conduct a deep-dive study into this population. However, because it is considered "transphobic" to question this trend at all, to call it a trend, to even suggest that kids would be better off if they did not have to deal with feelings of being the opposite sex or wishing they were the opposite sex, or just to point out that medical transition is not healthy for the human body, we may never get any real answers. Studies get almost immediately shut down if not preemptively cancelled due to cries of transphobia because most research institutions (universities) are captured by trans ideology and do whatever transactivists tell them they must do.

This issue is why this board exists, so parents can put our heads together and try to figure a few things out for ourselves, to gain some understanding. This forum is also here so that parents can lean on each other and support each other.

If you're a parent of a trans-identifying child, I encourage you to join as a member if you haven't already, so that you can access the full board where parents feel more comfortable to speak a little more freely than in this public section.
Posted by - 24-May-2024, 07:51 PM
(08-Oct-2021, 02:19 AM)Tom of Helatrobus Wrote: I'm working on a profile for ROGD Boys. This is what I have so far. Let me know how your ROGD Boy conforms or differs from the profile. Mine conforms except for #21 as far as I know. This is just a profile, not a diagnostic criteria. I'm a layman, not a mental health professional.
ROGD Male Profile. I posted this to a facebook group earlier and many members said this was an exact fit or very close. Some members said this profile matched their with their girls on most points.


1. Age of onset is during teen years.
2. Did not display gender non conforming behavior prior to “coming out” as trans.
3. Little or no interest in girl things after coming out as trans with the exception of wanting to dress, be addressed as a girl and physically transitioning to female.
4. Grows out hair.
5. Attempts to enlist parents as allies or manipulate parents to the end of facilitating transition.
6. Pre-occupation with hormone replacement therapy (HRT).
7. Parents had no prior hint the teen was trans or homosexual.
8. Smart. Academically talented.
9. Good at mathematics.
10. Little or no interest in competitive sports.
11. Socially awkward, soft spoken.
12. Sexually inexperienced/ inmature for their age.
13. Displays no or little interest in sex aside from stating a sexual orientation.
14. Self identifies as homosexual or bisexual.
15. Pychological comorbidities: anxieties, depression, autism spectrum, ADHD, OCD, for which therapy has been sought.
16. Recent crisis challenging sense of identity: recent falling out with friends, breakup, failure at school, etc.
17. Very active online/ on the internet via forums and gaming.
18. Has at least one trans friend.
19. Spends a lot of time isolated in room.
20. Interest in anime (Japanese cartoons).
21. Interest in cartoon porn and/or hypno-sissy porn.
22. Messy, difficulty keeping personal space/ room organized.
23. Resistant to growing up: won’t get driver’s license, holds on to age inappropriate items from childhood.
24. Reticent to discuss trans identity despite placing great emphasis and importance on it.
25. Far left politics: “Woke”, into social justice, anti capitalism also concepts like inter-sectionality, and “privilege”.
26. Parents are liberal.
one question, how do you know that those are causation and not correlation? also some of those are just confusing, like what does being good at math have to do with it?
Posted by Pdub2509 - 04-Mar-2024, 02:42 AM
Our 20 year old son checks most of these boxes except:
He said he started feeling this way at age 12 but just told us at age 20
He tried to be athletic but eventually gave up after 9th grade
Smart but not a good student ( executive functioning is a major weakness)
Became sexually active and promiscuous in 9th grade (with girls)
Had a serious girlfriend for 18 months (break up was catalyst to his mental deterioration )
No longer interested in dating
We are fiscally conservative but in the center on social issues
Posted by SkywardThinkier - 22-Feb-2024, 02:50 AM
All except for 3, 23. And 10. He's a good athlete, but isn't that interested in competition, so maybe 10 is still accurate. And, he doesn't even want to be addressed as she/her or change name. Nothing. But still insists he's trans. Spot on. And, we are liberal.

(08-Oct-2021, 02:19 AM)Tom of Helatrobus Wrote: I'm working on a profile for ROGD Boys. This is what I have so far. Let me know how your ROGD Boy conforms or differs from the profile. Mine conforms except for #21 as far as I know. This is just a profile, not a diagnostic criteria. I'm a layman, not a mental health professional.
ROGD Male Profile. I posted this to a facebook group earlier and many members said this was an exact fit or very close. Some members said this profile matched their with their girls on most points.


1. Age of onset is during teen years.
2. Did not display gender non conforming behavior prior to “coming out” as trans.
3. Little or no interest in girl things after coming out as trans with the exception of wanting to dress, be addressed as a girl and physically transitioning to female.
4. Grows out hair.
5. Attempts to enlist parents as allies or manipulate parents to the end of facilitating transition.
6. Pre-occupation with hormone replacement therapy (HRT).
7. Parents had no prior hint the teen was trans or homosexual.
8. Smart. Academically talented.
9. Good at mathematics.
10. Little or no interest in competitive sports.
11. Socially awkward, soft spoken.
12. Sexually inexperienced/ inmature for their age.
13. Displays no or little interest in sex aside from stating a sexual orientation.
14. Self identifies as homosexual or bisexual.
15. Pychological comorbidities: anxieties, depression, autism spectrum, ADHD, OCD, for which therapy has been sought.
16. Recent crisis challenging sense of identity: recent falling out with friends, breakup, failure at school, etc.
17. Very active online/ on the internet via forums and gaming.
18. Has at least one trans friend.
19. Spends a lot of time isolated in room.
20. Interest in anime (Japanese cartoons).
21. Interest in cartoon porn and/or hypno-sissy porn.
22. Messy, difficulty keeping personal space/ room organized.
23. Resistant to growing up: won’t get driver’s license, holds on to age inappropriate items from childhood.
24. Reticent to discuss trans identity despite placing great emphasis and importance on it.
25. Far left politics: “Woke”, into social justice, anti capitalism also concepts like inter-sectionality, and “privilege”.
26. Parents are liberal.

Mine except mine was an athlete. He is not soft spoken. He was interested in sex and has had experience. He did get drivers license.
Posted by Upset confused parent - 06-Oct-2023, 01:38 AM
(08-Oct-2021, 02:19 AM)Tom of Helatrobus Wrote: I'm working on a profile for ROGD Boys. This is what I have so far. Let me know how your ROGD Boy conforms or differs from the profile. Mine conforms except for #21 as far as I know. This is just a profile, not a diagnostic criteria. I'm a layman, not a mental health professional.
ROGD Male Profile. I posted this to a facebook group earlier and many members said this was an exact fit or very close. Some members said this profile matched their with their girls on most points.


1. Age of onset is during teen years.
2. Did not display gender non conforming behavior prior to “coming out” as trans.
3. Little or no interest in girl things after coming out as trans with the exception of wanting to dress, be addressed as a girl and physically transitioning to female.
4. Grows out hair.
5. Attempts to enlist parents as allies or manipulate parents to the end of facilitating transition.
6. Pre-occupation with hormone replacement therapy (HRT).
7. Parents had no prior hint the teen was trans or homosexual.
8. Smart. Academically talented.
9. Good at mathematics.
10. Little or no interest in competitive sports.
11. Socially awkward, soft spoken.
12. Sexually inexperienced/ inmature for their age.
13. Displays no or little interest in sex aside from stating a sexual orientation.
14. Self identifies as homosexual or bisexual.
15. Pychological comorbidities: anxieties, depression, autism spectrum, ADHD, OCD, for which therapy has been sought.
16. Recent crisis challenging sense of identity: recent falling out with friends, breakup, failure at school, etc.
17. Very active online/ on the internet via forums and gaming.
18. Has at least one trans friend.
19. Spends a lot of time isolated in room.
20. Interest in anime (Japanese cartoons).
21. Interest in cartoon porn and/or hypno-sissy porn.
22. Messy, difficulty keeping personal space/ room organized.
23. Resistant to growing up: won’t get driver’s license, holds on to age inappropriate items from childhood.
24. Reticent to discuss trans identity despite placing great emphasis and importance on it.
25. Far left politics: “Woke”, into social justice, anti capitalism also concepts like inter-sectionality, and “privilege”.
26. Parents are liberal.


My son fits most of these pointS, but not all. He claims age of onset in teen years, but did not say anything to us until his 20's. He was a competitive dancer for many years always as the male lead later on. He has said specifically that he is not homosexual or bisexual. He has always been a little awkward socai6, but he was very successful at school.and now.at his current job. I am not sure if he has had any sexual experience, but he had been known to watch porn.  He is a successful adult other than this, so number 23 doesn't really fit. 26 is not correct either.  This is all very upsetting as we are unable to find much support as parents who don't think this is at all healthy. It is made even more crazy as his older sister has also told she is now a man. I am feeling hopeless. 

(12-Sep-2023, 07:31 PM)Petunia Wrote: This list is spot on for us as well… I’d say 24 of 26. Were not liberal and he insists he likes girls. (Which makes him a “lesbian” apparently…)

This sounds lsimilar to our situation.
Posted by Kiki - 14-Sep-2023, 04:49 PM
(08-Oct-2021, 02:19 AM)Tom of Helatrobus Wrote: I'm working on a profile for ROGD Boys. This is what I have so far. Let me know how your ROGD Boy conforms or differs from the profile. Mine conforms except for #21 as far as I know. This is just a profile, not a diagnostic criteria. I'm a layman, not a mental health professional.
ROGD Male Profile. I posted this to a facebook group earlier and many members said this was an exact fit or very close. Some members said this profile matched their with their girls on most points.


1. Age of onset is during teen years.
2. Did not display gender non conforming behavior prior to “coming out” as trans.
3. Little or no interest in girl things after coming out as trans with the exception of wanting to dress, be addressed as a girl and physically transitioning to female.
4. Grows out hair.
5. Attempts to enlist parents as allies or manipulate parents to the end of facilitating transition.
6. Pre-occupation with hormone replacement therapy (HRT).
7. Parents had no prior hint the teen was trans or homosexual.
8. Smart. Academically talented.
9. Good at mathematics.
10. Little or no interest in competitive sports.
11. Socially awkward, soft spoken.
12. Sexually inexperienced/ inmature for their age.
13. Displays no or little interest in sex aside from stating a sexual orientation.
14. Self identifies as homosexual or bisexual.
15. Pychological comorbidities: anxieties, depression, autism spectrum, ADHD, OCD, for which therapy has been sought.
16. Recent crisis challenging sense of identity: recent falling out with friends, breakup, failure at school, etc.
17. Very active online/ on the internet via forums and gaming.
18. Has at least one trans friend.
19. Spends a lot of time isolated in room.
20. Interest in anime (Japanese cartoons).
21. Interest in cartoon porn and/or hypno-sissy porn.
22. Messy, difficulty keeping personal space/ room organized.
23. Resistant to growing up: won’t get driver’s license, holds on to age inappropriate items from childhood.
24. Reticent to discuss trans identity despite placing great emphasis and importance on it.
25. Far left politics: “Woke”, into social justice, anti capitalism also concepts like inter-sectionality, and “privilege”.
26. Parents are liberal.

Mine except mine was an athlete. He is not soft spoken. He was interested in sex and has had experience. He did get drivers license.
Posted by Petunia - 12-Sep-2023, 07:31 PM
This list is spot on for us as well… I’d say 24 of 26. Were not liberal and he insists he likes girls. (Which makes him a “lesbian” apparently…)
Posted by thorn4115 - 16-Aug-2023, 11:35 PM
Yes, fits almost all the criteria except I dont think he had any trans friends, and we are not a liberal household in the least. but most every other thing tracks!
Posted by boymomaz - 16-Aug-2023, 03:11 PM
(08-Oct-2021, 02:19 AM)Tom of Helatrobus Wrote: I'm working on a profile for ROGD Boys. This is what I have so far. Let me know how your ROGD Boy conforms or differs from the profile. Mine conforms except for #21 as far as I know. This is just a profile, not a diagnostic criteria. I'm a layman, not a mental health professional.
ROGD Male Profile. I posted this to a facebook group earlier and many members said this was an exact fit or very close. Some members said this profile matched their with their girls on most points.


1. Age of onset is during teen years.
2. Did not display gender non conforming behavior prior to “coming out” as trans.
3. Little or no interest in girl things after coming out as trans with the exception of wanting to dress, be addressed as a girl and physically transitioning to female.
4. Grows out hair.
5. Attempts to enlist parents as allies or manipulate parents to the end of facilitating transition.
6. Pre-occupation with hormone replacement therapy (HRT).
7. Parents had no prior hint the teen was trans or homosexual.
8. Smart. Academically talented.
9. Good at mathematics.
10. Little or no interest in competitive sports.
11. Socially awkward, soft spoken.
12. Sexually inexperienced/ inmature for their age.
13. Displays no or little interest in sex aside from stating a sexual orientation.
14. Self identifies as homosexual or bisexual.
15. Pychological comorbidities: anxieties, depression, autism spectrum, ADHD, OCD, for which therapy has been sought.
16. Recent crisis challenging sense of identity: recent falling out with friends, breakup, failure at school, etc.
17. Very active online/ on the internet via forums and gaming.
18. Has at least one trans friend.
19. Spends a lot of time isolated in room.
20. Interest in anime (Japanese cartoons).
21. Interest in cartoon porn and/or hypno-sissy porn.
22. Messy, difficulty keeping personal space/ room organized.
23. Resistant to growing up: won’t get driver’s license, holds on to age inappropriate items from childhood.
24. Reticent to discuss trans identity despite placing great emphasis and importance on it.
25. Far left politics: “Woke”, into social justice, anti capitalism also concepts like inter-sectionality, and “privilege”.
26. Parents are liberal.

VERY much my 17yo except we're conservative, he's smart but really struggles with math, hasn't asked us in any way to help with transition. In fact, the only thing he wanted "girlie' when he came out was black sports bras to go under is very goth/emo black head to toe look. He hasn't tried at all to dress more like a "girl". And I don't think he's into the cartoon porn-not that I found when I searched his tech. Mine also has self diagnosed as "on the spectrum".
Posted by MomToAStranger - 03-Jul-2023, 06:00 AM
Thank you for this list.
My 20 year old son came out as trans on Monday after previously coming out as bi on May 31st so he could more freely celebrate Pride month.
Coming out as bi was no big deal to me but coming out as trans was a total shock there were no signs at all.

I know for sure number 21 is a no because that was the first thing I asked him as I had just heard about how powerful it was the day before.
He mocked me and couldn't wait to tell his online trans friends that was my first question.

The only other item that doesn't fit is that his dad and I are both very conservative.
As another member mentioned, my son started shaving his entire body earlier this year and he bought himself an at home laser hair removal device too.

Everything else on the list is SPOT ON.
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