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Posted by Alana - 17-Feb-2019, 02:22 AM
Thank you so much, GCDad, for this amazing letter. I live in a tiny town in an extremely conservative area, but my son is not the only kid from our school district affected by ROGD. So I will send this to the school counselors along with my son's doctors and therapist. This letter is the best thing I've seen on ROGD and I am thrilled and so grateful to all who participated in creating it.

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Posted by Alana - 17-Feb-2019, 02:16 AM
(29-Aug-2018, 02:05 AM)PumpkinMom Wrote: I made the very difficult decision to sign under my real name, and append this note. Praying that my faith isn't misplaced, and that others will find the courage to do the same:

Dear Dr. Marcus, Dr. Kahler and Mr. Brown:

Thank you for publishing Dr. Lisa Littman’s study of Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria. Although my family was not a participant in Dr. Littman’s study, our story corroborates her research.

I am writing you under my real name, at personal risk, to demonstrate my trust that you’ll join me in standing up for the truth.

Please do not capitulate to the politically motivated and antiscientific hate mail you are getting about Dr. Littman’s study.
Thank you so much for sharing your letter. This is excellent, and I am so grateful for the smart phone incident that saved your child!
Posted by ConcernedMom9 - 16-Feb-2019, 11:50 PM
I'm anxiously awaiting approval by the moderators. We too are desperate parents struggling with ROGD in a 15yo who prior to 9 months ago displayed NO signs of beings trans. We made the mistake of taking them to a gender therapist who said they were neutral. How do you argue that this idea might be displaced with your teen? Maybe argue isn't right, but discuss. Ours is adamant, though the story of when they felt "different" keeps changing. AND just because you feel "different" doesn't mean transgender is WHY. I'll dig around the site, but we're looking for help in the Portland, Oregon area and only coming up with affirming practitioners.
Posted by Marge Bouvier Simpson - 09-Jan-2019, 05:48 PM
(09-Jan-2019, 07:27 AM)June Wrote:
(08-Aug-2018, 08:34 PM)GCDad Wrote: This letter presents what parents, scientists, and psychologists have to say about the sharp rise in transgender-identifying youth. (…)

hi,
I am newly registered, but I am not sure if I am doing things right. how can i access the letter you posted.

Hi June, and welcome to the forum.

If you go to the very first post in this thread (GCDad's original post), look at the bottom of that post and there is a link to download an attachment. The attachment is the letter in full. The link is light blue and that seems to make it easy to miss.

On another note, your membership account has been activated and you should now have access to the members-only area of the forum, if you would like to check it out.

Hope to see you inside.
Posted by June - 09-Jan-2019, 07:27 AM
(08-Aug-2018, 08:34 PM)GCDad Wrote: This letter presents what parents, scientists, and psychologists have to say about the sharp rise in transgender-identifying youth.

I'm posting this to maintain the writers anonymity, I can't take credit for the work that has gone into it, but would like to express my thanks for their hard work and my delight that people are doing great stuff here, that I wasn't even aware of.

Please share this far and wide.

A Note About This Letter:

This letter may be a shock to people who have been assuming that gender dysphoric youth have extensive investigation and evaluation before they are affirmed in their transgender identification.

We as parents have experienced the lack of mental health evaluation, the immediate acceptance of the youth's self-diagnosis, and the effort to silence and ignore parents’ questions and concerns when the youth's claim does not match the child's life experience.

The research into what it means when a youth says they are transgender is in its infancy. There is no biological-based diagnosis or proven scientific theories and the clinical evidence evaluating different treatment paradigms is extremely lacking.

Yet, our children are immediately affirmed in their transgender belief by psychologists, schools are enacting policies to affirm a youth's claim of being transgender without question, schools are preventing the parents from being informed about their child's claim as well as "educating" elementary school children that their gender is a choice that can be medically altered if it doesn't match their "assigned birth sex."

It's time to bring ethical scientific debate and evidence-based care to our youth.  This letter is meant to aid in that cause in a non-discriminatory, diversity-embracing fashion.

Our target audience is very broad with the first wave directed to schools and subsequent waves directed to psychologists, media, politicians, and physicians.

Please consider supporting this letter campaign in any way that you can.

"IMPORTANT UPDATE - October 27, 2018

-- The letter has been downloaded over 730 times.  It was updated today which resets the download count to 0.

-- Please continue to disseminate!
 
-- As background, and in case anyone asks you about the letter or about specific points: 
Statements within the letter are 
(1) pulled from reliable sources as referenced within the document,
(2) supported by additional scientific findings that couldn't be included for length reasons, 
and/or 
(3) they reflect our collective experiences as parents that have not been recorded in the literature because the ROGD phenomenon is so new.

hi,
I am newly registered, but I am not sure if I am doing things right. how can i access the letter you posted.
Posted by Jillybean525 - 04-Sep-2018, 11:33 AM
Thank you so much for this. I have written to my daughters gender clinic and psychotherapist. I really hope that in the very near future things change for the better, even if it's too late for my girl!
Posted by Marge Bouvier Simpson - 29-Aug-2018, 07:45 PM
I saw this in the comments at 4thwavenow! It is an excellent letter, and I thank you so much for writing it and sharing it so many places. I appreciate it so much!
Posted by rsrs - 29-Aug-2018, 07:51 AM
Dear Pumpkin, thanks for adding your excellent comment (which I saw on twitter)
Posted by PumpkinMom - 29-Aug-2018, 02:05 AM
I made the very difficult decision to sign under my real name, and append this note. Praying that my faith isn't misplaced, and that others will find the courage to do the same:

Dear Dr. Marcus, Dr. Kahler and Mr. Brown:

Thank you for publishing Dr. Lisa Littman’s study of Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria. Although my family was not a participant in Dr. Littman’s study, our story corroborates her research.

I am writing you under my real name, at personal risk, to demonstrate my trust that you’ll join me in standing up for the truth.

Please do not capitulate to the politically motivated and antiscientific hate mail you are getting about Dr. Littman’s study.

My family’s experience is not anecdotal, nor are we “right wing.” Our X-year-old child had no gender nonconforming history before spending nine of the last twelve months believing she was “really” a man, simply because when she asked a counselor about kids at school becoming “trans,” that counselor--without any evidence or investigation, and with total disregard to a history of traumatic brain injury and other mitigating factors--suggested that wondering about trans things means you're probably trans. Our family would not have known this was the content of their sessions if not for a smart-phone glitch sending us texts from the therapist intended for our child. The therapist was fired immediately and our original care team brought in to deal with the real issues. Within weeks our child stopped believing she was “really a man” and was immensely relieved.

But, had it not been for the smart-phone glitch, my daughter could have been put on testosterone and had a double mastectomy within weeks, without my consent or knowledge, due to my state’s 15-year age of medical consent and very active trans lobby willing to provide funding and drugs, no questions asked.

Under such circumstances, most ROGD families have not been as lucky as mine. I know firsthand, because I’ve met those families. I am a participant in the anonymous chat rooms, the underground railroad. Daily I provide support to families who have endured varying degrees of chemical and surgical damage before realizing that trans ideology is not the fix they were promised it would be. Believe me when I tell you that Dr. Littman’s data is only the tip of the iceberg.

What more evidence do you need from us?

Our stories are no more anecdotal than the spectral evidence by which thousands of children are being chemically sterilized and surgically altered. If it’s okay to rely on qualitative studies to justify transitioning children, then it’s certainly acceptable to use qualitative studies to question the transitioning of children. If it’s okay to rely on anecdotal feelings to medically experiment on children, then it’s okay to rely on anecdotal feelings to justify being cautious. Isn’t feeling cautious about proceeding without evidence the foundation of the scientific method?

Alternatively, if you must hold gender-critical parents to a higher standard of evidence than you hold the trans industry, fine. Then allow us to present our evidence in the light of day. Make it safe for us to give our names, as I have here. Ensure that our honesty will not subject us and our children to harassment and threats of violence such as your institution and Dr. Littman are now subject to. Show the bullies that you will stand up to them, and that you won’t let them use threats to suppress evidence. Ensure that our families’ truth will receive true scientific scrutiny, without our having to seek refuge in the anonymous chat rooms and underground railroads from which Dr. Littman gathered her very real data about us. Take a stand for the truth, and you shall have all the evidence from us that you need.

Dr. Littman is right. There is absolutely a social contagion in play. A contagion empowered by the effective gag order that institutions like Brown place on themselves, and on us, when capitulating to political groups’ demands that unpopular data be suppressed. A contagion that takes our children from us because scientists are more interested in political expediency than scientific rigor and the Hippocratic principal to first do no harm.

I know you’ve gotten the following form letter from other families, because I know those families. My family is one of them. So please add me to the list of petitioners, and thank you for reading.

As mentioned, I am using my real name, to show trust that you will join me in standing up for the truth. Please don’t let me down.

[Signed real name & address]
A concerned ROGD parent in [city]
xxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx

Attachment: Petition Below
Posted by - 27-Aug-2018, 09:37 PM
Thank you very much for posting this!
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